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Leica X Vario vs Nikon D7000

The Leica X Vario (Typ 107) and the Nikon D7000 are two digital cameras that were officially introduced, respectively, in June 2013 and September 2010. The X Vario is a fixed lens compact, while the D7000 is a DSLR. Both cameras are equipped with an APS-C sensor. Both cameras offer a resolution of 16.1 megapixels.

Below is an overview of the main specs of the two cameras as a starting point for the comparison.

Headline Specifications
Leica X Vario
versus
Nikon D7000
Leica X Vario   Nikon D7000
Fixed lens compact camera Digital single lens reflex
28-70mm f/3.5-6.4 Nikon F mount lenses
16.1 MP, APS-C Sensor 16.1 MP, APS-C Sensor
1080/30p Video 10800/24p Video
ISO 100-12,500 ISO 100-6,400 (100 - 25,600)
Viewfinder optional Optical viewfinder
3.0 LCD, 920k dots 3.0 LCD, 921k dots
Fixed screen (not touch-sensitive) Fixed screen (not touch-sensitive)
5 shutter flaps per second 6 shutter flaps per second
not weather sealedWeathersealed body
450 shots per battery charge1050 shots per battery charge
133 x 73 x 95 mm, 680 g 132 x 105 x 77 mm, 780 g

Going beyond this snapshot of core features and characteristics, what are the differences between the Leica X Vario (Typ 107) and the Nikon D7000? Which one should you buy? Read on to find out how these two cameras compare with respect to their body size, their imaging sensors, their shooting features, their input-output connections, and their reception by expert reviewers.

Body comparison

An illustration of the physical size and weight of the Leica X Vario and the Nikon D7000 is provided in the side-by-side display below. The two cameras are presented according to their relative size. Three consecutive perspectives from the front, the top, and the back are available. All width, height and depth measures are rounded to the nearest millimeter.

The X Vario can be obtained in two different colors (black, silver), while the D7000 is only available in black.

Size Leica X Vario vs Nikon D7000
Compare X Vario versus D7000 top
Comparison X Vario or D7000 rear

If the front view area (width x height) of the cameras is taken as an aggregate measure of their size, the Nikon D7000 is considerably larger (43 percent) than the Leica X Vario. It is noteworthy in this context that the D7000 is splash and dust-proof, while the X Vario does not feature any corresponding weather-sealing.

The above size and weight comparisons are to some extent incomplete and possibly misleading, as the X Vario has a lens built in, whereas the D7000 is an interchangeable lens camera that requires a separate lens. Attaching the latter will add extra weight and bulk to the setup. You can compare the optics available for the D7000 and their specifications in the Nikon Lens Catalog.

Concerning battery life, the X Vario gets 450 shots out of its BP-DC8 battery, while the D7000 can take 1050 images on a single charge of its EN-EL15 power pack.

The table below summarizes the key physical specs of the two cameras alongside a broader set of comparators. In case you want to display and compare another camera duo, you can use the CAM-parator app to select your camera combination among a large number of options.

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Body Specifications
    Camera
Model
Camera
Width
Camera
Height
Camera
Depth
Camera
Weight
Battery
Life
Weather
Sealing
Camera
Launch
Launch
Price (USD)
Street
Price
1.
 
Leica X Vario 133 mm 73 mm 95 mm 680 g 450 n Jun 2013 2,850 i
2.
 
Nikon D7000 132 mm 105 mm 77 mm 780 g 1050 Y Sep 2010 1,499 i
3.
 
Canon SX60 128 mm 93 mm 114 mm 650 g 340 n Sep 2014 549 i
4.
 
Canon 7D 148 mm 111 mm 74 mm 860 g 800 Y Sep 2009 1,699 i
5.
 
Leica X-U Typ 113 140 mm 79 mm 88 mm 635 g 450 Y Jan 2016 2,950 i
6.
 
Leica Q Typ 116 130 mm 80 mm 93 mm 640 g 300 n Jun 2015 4,249 i
7.
 
Leica T 134 mm 69 mm 33 mm 384 g 400 n Apr 2014 1,850 i
8.
 
Leica V-LUX Typ 114 137 mm 99 mm 131 mm 830 g 360 n Sep 2014 1,349 i
9.
 
Leica X Typ 113 133 mm 73 mm 78 mm 486 g 350 n Sep 2014 2,295 i
10.
 
Nikon D7500 136 mm 104 mm 73 mm 720 g 950 Y Apr 2017 1,299 i
11.
 
Nikon D7100 136 mm 107 mm 76 mm 765 g 950 Y Feb 2013 1,199 i
12.
 
Nikon Df 144 mm 110 mm 67 mm 760 g 1400 Y Nov 2013 2,749 i
13.
 
Nikon D300S 147 mm 115 mm 81 mm 938 g 950 Y Jul 2009 1,799 i
14.
 
Nikon D90 132 mm 103 mm 77 mm 703 g 850 n Aug 2008 1,299 i
15.
 
Panasonic FZ1000 137 mm 99 mm 131 mm 831 g 360 n Jun 2014 899 i
16.
 
Ricoh GR 117 mm 61 mm 35 mm 245 g 290 n Apr 2013 799 i
17.
 
Sony RX1R 113 mm 65 mm 70 mm 482 g 270 n Jun 2013 2,799 i
Notes: Measurements and pricing do not include easily detachable parts, such as add-on or interchangeable lenses or optional viewfinders.

Any camera decision will naturally be influenced heavily by the price. The retail prices at the time of the camera’s release place the model in the market relative to other models in the producer’s line-up and the competition. Normally, street prices remain initially close to the MSRP, but after a couple of months, the first discounts appear. Later in the product cycle and, in particular, when the replacement model is about to appear, further discounting and stock clearance sales often push the camera price considerably down. Then, after the new model is out, very good deals can frequently be found on the pre-owned market.

Sensor comparison

The size of the imaging sensor is a crucial determinant of image quality. A large sensor will tend to have larger individual pixels that provide better low-light sensitivity, wider dynamic range, and richer color-depth than smaller pixel-units in a sensor of the same technological generation. Further, a large sensor camera will give the photographer additional creative options when using shallow depth-of-field to isolate a subject from its background. On the downside, larger sensors are more costly to manufacture and tend to lead to bigger and heavier cameras and lenses.

Both cameras under consideration feature an APS-C sensor and have a format factor (sometimes also referred to as "crop factor") of 1.5. Within the spectrum of camera sensors, this places the review cameras among the medium-sized sensor cameras that aim to strike a balance between image quality and portability. Both cameras have a native aspect ratio (sensor width to sensor height) of 3:2.

Leica X Vario and Nikon D7000 sensor measures

The two cameras under review do not only share the same sensor size, but also offer an identical resolution of 16.1 megapixels. This similarity in sensor specs implies that both the X Vario and the D7000 have the same pixel density, as well as the same pixel size. It should, however, be noted that the X Vario is much more recent (by 2 years and 8 months) than the D7000, and its sensor will have benefitted from technological advances during this time.

The Leica X Vario (Typ 107) has a native sensitivity range from ISO 100 to ISO 12500. The corresponding ISO settings for the Nikon D7000 are ISO 100 to ISO 6400, with the possibility to increase the ISO range to 100-25600.

X Vario versus D7000 MP

Consistent information on actual sensor performance is available from DXO Mark for many cameras. This service is based on lab testing and assigns an overall score to each camera sensor, as well as ratings for dynamic range ("DXO Landscape"), color depth ("DXO Portrait"), and low-light sensitivity ("DXO Sports"). The Overall DXO ratings for the two cameras under consideration are close, suggesting that they provide similar imaging performance. The adjacent table reports on the physical sensor characteristics and the outcomes of the DXO sensor quality tests for a sample of comparator-cameras.

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Sensor Characteristics
    Camera
Model
Sensor
Class
Resolution
(MP)
Horiz.
Pixels
Vert.
Pixels
Video
Format
DXO
Portrait
DXO
Landscape
DXO
Sports
DXO
Overall
1.
 
Leica X Vario APS-C 16.1 4928 32721080/30p23.412.71320 78
2.
 
Nikon D7000 APS-C 16.1 4928 326410800/24p23.513.91167 80
3.
 
Canon SX60 1/2.3 14.2 4608 30721080/60p19.210.8127 39
4.
 
Canon 7D APS-C 17.9 5184 34561080/30p22.011.7854 66
5.
 
Leica X-U Typ 113 APS-C 16.1 4928 32641080/30p...... ..
6.
 
Leica Q Typ 116 Full Frame 24.0 6000 40001080/60p24.312.72221 85
7.
 
Leica T APS-C 16.2 4944 32781080/30p23.012.71082 75
8.
 
Leica V-LUX Typ 114 1-inch 20.0 5472 36484K/30p...... ..
9.
 
Leica X Typ 113 APS-C 16.1 4928 32641080/30p...... ..
10.
 
Nikon D7500 APS-C 20.7 5568 37124K/30p24.314.01483 86
11.
 
Nikon D7100 APS-C 24.0 6000 40001080/60p24.213.71256 83
12.
 
Nikon Df Full Frame 16.2 4928 3280none24.613.13279 89
13.
 
Nikon D300S APS-C 12.2 4288 2848720/24p22.512.2787 70
14.
 
Nikon D90 APS-C 12.2 4288 2848720/24p22.712.5977 73
15.
 
Panasonic FZ1000 1-inch 20.0 5472 36484K/30p22.111.7517 64
16.
 
Ricoh GR APS-C 16.1 4928 32641080/30p23.613.5972 78
17.
 
Sony RX1R Full Frame 24.0 6000 40001080/60p25.013.62537 91

Many modern cameras are not only capable of taking still images, but can also record movies. The two cameras under consideration both have sensors whose read-out speed is fast enough to capture moving pictures, but the X Vario provides a higher frame rate than the D7000. It can shoot video footage at 1080/30p, while the Nikon is limited to 10800/24p.

Feature comparison

Beyond body and sensor, cameras can and do differ across a range of features. For example, the D7000 has an optical viewfinder, which can be very useful when shooting in bright sunlight. In contrast, the X Vario relies on live view and the rear LCD for framing. That said, the X Vario can be equipped with an optional viewfinder – the EVF 2. The table below summarizes some of the other core capabilities of the Leica X Vario and Nikon D7000 in connection with corresponding information for a sample of similar cameras.

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Core Features
    Camera
Model
Viewfinder
(Type or
000 dots)
Control
Panel
(yes/no)
LCD
Size
(inch)
LCD
Resolution
(000 dots)
LCD
Attach-
ment
Touch
Screen
(yes/no)
Mech
Shutter
Speed
Shutter
Flaps
(1/sec)
Built-in
Flash
(yes/no)
Built-in
Image
Stab
1.
 
Leica X Variooptional n 3.0 920 fixed n 1/2000s 5.0 Y n
2.
 
Nikon D7000optical Y 3.0 921 fixed n 1/8000s 6.0 Y n
3.
 
Canon SX60922 n 3.0 922 swivel n 1/2000s 6.4 Y Y
4.
 
Canon 7Doptical Y 3.0 920 fixed n 1/8000s 8.0 Y n
5.
 
Leica X-U Typ 113optional n 3.0 920 fixed n 1/2000s 5.0 Y n
6.
 
Leica Q Typ 1163680 n 3.0 1040 fixed Y 1/2000s 10.0 n Y
7.
 
Leica Toptional n 3.7 1230 fixed Y 1/4000s 5.0 Y n
8.
 
Leica V-LUX Typ 1142359 n 3.0 921 swivel n 1/4000s 12.0 Y Y
9.
 
Leica X Typ 113optional n 3.0 920 fixed n 1/2000s 5.0 Y n
10.
 
Nikon D7500optical Y 3.2 922 tilting Y 1/8000s 8.0 Y n
11.
 
Nikon D7100optical Y 3.2 1229 fixed n 1/8000s 6.0 Y n
12.
 
Nikon Dfoptical Y 3.2 921 fixed n 1/4000s 5.5 n n
13.
 
Nikon D300Soptical Y 3.0 920 fixed n 1/8000s 7.0 Y n
14.
 
Nikon D90optical Y 3.0 920 fixed n 1/4000s 4.5 Y n
15.
 
Panasonic FZ10002359 n 3.0 921 swivel n 1/4000s 12.0 Y Y
16.
 
Ricoh GRoptional n 3.0 1230 fixed n 1/4000s 4.0 Y n
17.
 
Sony RX1Roptional n 3.0 1229 fixed n 1/4000s 5.0 Y n

One feature that is present on the D7000, but is missing on the X Vario is a top-level LCD. While being, of course, smaller than the rear screen, the control panel conveys some of the essential shooting information and can be convenient for quick and easy settings verification.

The Nikon D7000 has an intervalometer built-in. This enables the photographer to capture time lapse sequences, such as flower blooming, a sunset or moon rise, without purchasing an external camera trigger and related software.

Concerning the storage of imaging data, both the X Vario and the D7000 write their files to SDXC cards. The D7000 features dual card slots, which can be very useful in case a memory card fails. In contrast, the X Vario only has one slot.

Connectivity comparison

For some imaging applications, the extent to which a camera can communicate with its environment can be an important aspect in the camera decision process. The table below provides an overview of the connectivity of the Leica X Vario (Typ 107) and Nikon D7000 and, in particular, the interfaces the cameras (and selected comparators) provide for accessory control and data transfer.

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Input-Output Connections
    Camera
Model
Hotshoe
Port
Internal
Microphone
Internal
Speaker
Microphone
Port
Headphone
Port
HDMI
Port
USB
Port
WiFi
Support
NFC
Support
Bluetooth
Support
1.
 
Leica X VarioYstereomono--mini2.0---
2.
 
Nikon D7000YmonomonoY-mini2.0---
3.
 
Canon SX60YstereomonoY-mini2.0YY-
4.
 
Canon 7DYmono-Y-mini2.0---
5.
 
Leica X-U Typ 113Ystereomono---2.0---
6.
 
Leica Q Typ 116Ystereomono--micro2.0YY-
7.
 
Leica TYstereomono---2.0Y--
8.
 
Leica V-LUX Typ 114YstereomonoY-micro2.0YY-
9.
 
Leica X Typ 113Ystereomono--mini2.0---
10.
 
Nikon D7500YstereomonoYYmini2.0Y-Y
11.
 
Nikon D7100YstereomonoYYmini2.0---
12.
 
Nikon DfY----mini2.0---
13.
 
Nikon D300SYstereomonoY-mini2.0---
14.
 
Nikon D90Ymonomono--mini2.0---
15.
 
Panasonic FZ1000YstereomonoY-micro2.0YY-
16.
 
Ricoh GRYmonomono--micro2.0---
17.
 
Sony RX1RYstereomonoY-mini2.0---

It is notable that the D7000 has a microphone port, which can help to improve the quality of audio recordings by attaching an external microphone. The X Vario does not feature such a mic input.

Both the X Vario and the D7000 have been discontinued, but can regularly be found used on eBay. The D7000 was replaced by the Nikon D7100, while the X Vario does not have a direct successor. Further information on the two cameras (e.g. user guides, manuals), as well as related accessories, can be found on the official Leica and Nikon websites.

Review summary

So what conclusions can be drawn? Which of the two cameras – the Leica X Vario or the Nikon D7000 – has the upper hand? Is one clearly better than the other? Below is a summary of the relative strengths of each of the two contestants.

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Advantages of the Leica X Vario (Typ 107):

  • Better video: Provides higher movie framerates (1080/30p versus 10800/24p).
  • Ready to shoot: Comes with a built-in lens, while the D7000 requires a separate lens.
  • More compact: Is smaller (133x73mm vs 132x105mm) and thus needs less room in the bag.
  • Less heavy: Is lighter even though it comes with a built-in lens (unlike the D7000).
  • More prestigious: Has the Leica luxury appeal, which ensures a high resale price.
  • More modern: Reflects 2 years and 8 months of technical progress since the D7000 launch.

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Reasons to prefer the Nikon D7000:

  • More dynamic range: Captures a broader range of light and dark details (1.2 EV of extra DR).
  • Better sound: Can connect to an external microphone for higher quality sound recording.
  • Easier framing: Has an optical viewfinder for image composition and settings control.
  • Easier setting verification: Features a control panel on top to check shooting parameters.
  • Faster shutter: Has higher mechanical shutter speed (1/8000s vs 1/2000s) to freeze action.
  • Faster burst: Shoots at higher frequency (6 vs 5 flaps/sec) to capture the decisive moment.
  • Easier time-lapse photography: Has an intervalometer built-in for low frequency shooting.
  • More flexible: Makes it possible to change lenses and thus to use specialty optics.
  • Longer lasting: Gets more shots (1050 versus 450) out of a single battery charge.
  • Better sealing: Is splash and dust sealed for shooting in inclement weather conditions.
  • Greater peace of mind: Features a second card slot as a backup in case of memory card failure.
  • More heavily discounted: Has been around for much longer (launched in September 2010).

If the count of individual advantages (bullet points above) is taken as a guide, the D7000 is the clear winner of the contest (12 : 6 points). However, the pertinence of the various camera strengths will differ across photographers, so that you might want to weigh individual camera traits according to their importance for your own imaging needs before making a camera decision. A professional wedding photographer will view the differences between cameras in a way that diverges from the perspective of a travel photog, and a person interested in cityscapes has distinct needs from a macro shooter. Hence, the decision which camera is best and worth buying is often a very personal one.

X Vario 06:12 D7000

How about other alternatives? Do the specifications of the Leica X Vario and the Nikon D7000 place the cameras among the top in their class? Find out in the latest Best Travel-Zoom Camera and Best DSLR Camera listings whether the two cameras rank among the cream of the crop.

In any case, while the specs-based evaluation of cameras can be instructive in revealing their potential as photographic tools, it says little about, for example, the shooting experience and imaging performance of the X Vario and the D7000 in practical situations. User reviews, such as those found at amazon, can sometimes inform about these issues, but such feedback is often incomplete, inconsistent, and biased.

Expert reviews

This is where reviews by experts come in. The table below provides a synthesis of the camera assessments of some of the best known photo-gear review sites (amateurphotographer [AP], cameralabs [CL], dpreview [DPR], ephotozine [EPZ], photographyblog [PB]). As can be seen, the professional reviewers agree in many cases on the quality of different cameras, but sometimes their assessments diverge, reinforcing the earlier point that a camera decision is often a very personal choice.

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Expert Camera Reviews
     Camera 
 Model 
 AP 
 score 
 CL 
 score 
 DPR 
 score 
 EPZ 
 score 
 PB 
 score 
Camera
Launch
Launch
Price (USD)
Street
Price
1.
 
Leica X Vario3/5....4/54/5 Jun 2013 2,850 i
2.
 
Nikon D70004/5..80/1004.5/54.5/5 Sep 2010 1,499 i
3.
 
Canon SX603/5+ +75/1004/54.5/5 Sep 2014 549 i
4.
 
Canon 7D5/5+ +84/1004.5/54.5/5 Sep 2009 1,699 i
5.
 
Leica X-U Typ 1133.5/5......3.5/5 Jan 2016 2,950 i
6.
 
Leica Q Typ 1165/5..80/1004.5/54.5/5 Jun 2015 4,249 i
7.
 
Leica T3/5....4/54/5 Apr 2014 1,850 i
8.
 
Leica V-LUX Typ 114........5/5 Sep 2014 1,349 i
9.
 
Leica X Typ 1133.5/5....3.5/54/5 Sep 2014 2,295 i
10.
 
Nikon D75004.5/5+ +86/1005/54.5/5 Apr 2017 1,299 i
11.
 
Nikon D71005/5+ +85/1004.5/54.5/5 Feb 2013 1,199 i
12.
 
Nikon Df4/5..81/1004/54/5 Nov 2013 2,749 i
13.
 
Nikon D300S5/5+ +82/1004/54.5/5 Jul 2009 1,799 i
14.
 
Nikon D90..+ ++ +4/54.5/5 Aug 2008 1,299 i
15.
 
Panasonic FZ10004/5+ +82/1004.5/54.5/5 Jun 2014 899 i
16.
 
Ricoh GR5/5..79/1004.5/54.5/5 Apr 2013 799 i
17.
 
Sony RX1R5/5....4/54.5/5 Jun 2013 2,799 i
Notes: (+ +) highly recommended; (+) recommended; (o) reviewed; (..) not available.

Care should be taken when interpreting the review scores above, though. The ratings are only valid when referring to cameras in the same category and of the same age. Thus, a score needs to be put into the context of the launch date and the launch price of the camera, and comparing ratings of very distinct cameras or ones that are far apart in terms of their release date have little meaning. Also, please note that some of the review sites have changed their methodology and reporting over time.

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    Specifications: Leica X Vario vs Nikon D7000

    Below is a side-by-side comparison of the specs of the two cameras to facilitate a quick review of their differences and common features.

    Camera Specifications
    Camera Model Leica X Vario Nikon D7000
    Camera Type Fixed lens compact camera Digital single lens reflex
    Camera Lens 28-70mm f/3.5-6.4 Nikon F mount lenses
    Launch Date June 2013 September 2010
    Launch Price USD 2,850 USD 1,499
    Sensor Specs Leica X Vario Nikon D7000
    Sensor Technology CMOS CMOS
    Sensor Format APS-C Sensor APS-C Sensor
    Sensor Size 23.6 x 15.7 mm 23.6 x 15.7 mm
    Sensor Area 370.52 mm2 370.52 mm2
    Sensor Diagonal 28.3 mm 28.3 mm
    Crop Factor 1.5x 1.5x
    Sensor Resolution 16.1 Megapixels 16.1 Megapixels
    Image Resolution 4928 x 3272 pixels 4928 x 3264 pixels
    Pixel Pitch 4.80 μm 4.80 μm
    Pixel Density 4.35 MP/cm2 4.34 MP/cm2
    Moiré control Anti-Alias filter Anti-Alias filter
    Movie Capability 1080/30p Video 10800/24p Video
    ISO Setting 100 - 12,500 ISO 100 - 6,400 ISO
    ISO Boost no Enhancement 100 - 25,600 ISO
    DXO Sensor Quality (score) 78 80
    DXO Color Depth (bits) 23.4 23.5
    DXO Dynamic Range (EV) 12.7 13.9
    DXO Low Light (ISO) 1320 1167
    Screen Specs Leica X Vario Nikon D7000
    Viewfinder Type Viewfinder optional Optical viewfinder
    Viewfinder Field of View 100%
    Viewfinder Magnification 0.63x
    Top-Level Screen no Top Display Control Panel
    LCD Framing Live View
    Rear LCD Size 3.0inch 3.0inch
    LCD Resolution 920k dots 921k dots
    LCD Attachment Fixed screen Fixed screen
    Shooting Specs Leica X Vario Nikon D7000
    Focus System Contrast-detect AF Phase-detect AF
    Continuous Shooting 5 shutter flaps/s 6 shutter flaps/s
    Time-Lapse Photographyno IntervalometerIntervalometer built-in
    Fill Flash Built-in Flash Built-in Flash
    Storage Medium SDXC cards SDXC cards
    Second Storage Option Single card slot Dual card slots
    UHS card support no no
    Connectivity Specs Leica X Vario Nikon D7000
    External Flash Hotshoe Hotshoe
    USB Connector USB 2.0 USB 2.0
    HDMI Port mini HDMI mini HDMI
    Microphone Port no MIC socket External MIC port
    Wifi Support no Wifi no Wifi
    Body Specs Leica X Vario Nikon D7000
    Environmental Sealingnot weather sealedWeathersealed body
    Battery Type BP-DC8 EN-EL15
    Battery Life (CIPA)450 shots per charge1050 shots per charge
    Body Dimensions 133 x 73 x 95 mm
    (5.2 x 2.9 x 3.7 in)
    132 x 105 x 77 mm
    (5.2 x 4.1 x 3.0 in)
    Camera Weight 680 g (24.0 oz) 780 g (27.5 oz)

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